Google’s also peddling a data collector through Apple’s back door

techcrunch.com/2019/01/30/goog

Almost as if… they’re both surveillance capitalists acting exactly as you would expect surveillance capitalists to act.

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@aral Google pays Apple something like $9B a year, so I suspect that even if Apple knew about this, they just looked the other way. If they make Google stop now, it'll probably be only because it's being revealed on the heels of the Facetime vulnerability.

This raises the more concerning issue of the use of these kinds of applications (and even apps like GMail) to collect information about people aside from the person choosing to use the app.

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@aral We need to shift the conversation so that it's no longer people choosing to expose just their own information, but information about everyone they interact with as well. It needs to stop being socially acceptable to let others spy on you.

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I'd add that it should also become bad manners to default to any amount of data collection, have less-than-solid encryption for everything, or not to offer a comfortable way to port your own data to another service.

You wouldn't eat at a restaurant where they scan your passport before they let you in, have no soap in the bathroom and tell you the price after you've eaten.

...metaphor limps a bit but still ...

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