At the end of every day I wish I didn't live in a world where I have to dedicate ~70% of my waking hours during the week to working on crap I don't truly care about just to put a roof over my head and food on the table.


@erellsworth something I've noticed is that most of the people I know who have the skills to be doing interesting things in their spare time are expected to work so many hours that they don't have any.

@highfellow This is exactly my problem. It drives me nuts. Literally. I'm constantly complaining about it to my therapist.

@erellsworth maybe you need to look for other people who feel the same way about it and work together with them to do something that you think is worth doing?

@highfellow It's a nice thought but it's not for me. I don't like to depend on other people for anything if I can help it and I don't like other people depending on me.

I work on stuff I think is worth doing on my own. Finding the time and energy to do it is the real challenge for me. Too often when I have one, I don't have the other.

@erellsworth I mean that it is a problem in relation to life and society and other people, not a psychological problem.

@highfellow It is a psychological problem rooted in culture.

US American culture is obsessed with work. When you meet someone at a party, the first question they're likely to ask you is, "what do you do for a living?" We are too often defined by our jobs.

Meanwhile, the majority of jobs available are those society looks down on. Study hard kids or you'll end up working for Walmart! Meanwhile, retail work is the most common job in America.

And if you can't get a higher paying and/or more prestigious job, people constantly tell you it's due to some kind of character defect. You're just lazy, work harder!

So where does that leave us? With a country full of people defined by their jobs, working jobs they're told aren't important, that don't pay enough to provide a decent quality of life, and that can be taken away at any moment.

It's a perfect recipe for widespread depression and anxiety.

@erellsworth the American Dream is that anyone can make it, but the American Reality is that not everyone can make it...

@erellsworth my way of thinking about it is that there are some things that need to be done in an organized way for us to have the kind of society we have, like driving trains or working in factories, and we need to fit in with that to some extent. Then there are other things that can be done more informally according to people's interests as individual people. But the balance between the two is too far in favor of organized work. I would like to see a four day week as standard.

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