anti-vax people rant
ok so this is going on mastodon because i don't want to erupt some kind of family facebook fight
anti-vaxers PISS ME OFF but probably not for the obvious reasons (endangering people's health)
no, the shit that pisses me off is the dishonest and cowardly arguments they cycle through to justify their behavior. FREEDOM. CHOICE. MICROCHIPS. FDA.
just say the actual reason you don't want the vaccine, asshole
anyway i removed that person because they either didn't spend five seconds to google something before posting it, or they're lying for an agenda. maybe a mix of both.
either way if i can't trust them with the easy stuff there's no way i'm able to trust them
also the most obvious kind of counter to all this is that not all vegan materials are plastic? like wtf?
but is animal agriculture a given? like i have my plastic leather gimp suit and ball gag and it's going to pollute obviously, but is it really THAT big of a problem compared to tearing down the earth to make farms and feed the farms?
the only way the post or any of this argument makes sense is if you accept animal agriculture as a given- then vegan clothes plastics and pollution adds on to the pollution
this isn't some weird paris climate agreement shit where you can launder pollution shit. making the planet better by not wearing vegan plastics doesn't undo the harm done by wearing leather, it just exchanges it
the down low is this: animal products in a capitalistic society come with disrespect and exploitation attached. what you choose to do about this depends on your own philosophy, but you can't just pretend this isn't an issue
another post i read is that it's probably better to wear leather and pass it down through generations and be super respectful about it
whenever i hear someone talk about being 'super respectful' about something i know it's going to be some trashy shit
i'm happy for people to argue the merits of pollution and sustainability around vegan lifestyles
but removing the suffering of and consent of animals from the discussion is not ok
like idk, i'm not an animal, but i think animals would prefer i wear plastic instead of their fur? i think that's the choice they would choose if i asked them 'should i wear your skin or this plastic'
like granted- let's say all that's true (lol), the post goes on to attack vegan ethics for creating a polluted and trash world that's worse for animals and people
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