@devinprater It's a little disappointing you didn't mention or weigh VS Code being proprietary

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb Yes, that's the FreeTusky I'm talking about. Not Husky.

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb I'm mainly talking about FreeTusky itself, not its users- there's not much data on its users I can find.

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb @penny Did that answer your question though?

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb @penny in my case i'd remove it just because it's an artificial block that makes the software do less, like DRM. there's also the trouble around it that i perceive such as lack of discussion or consensus with the block or patch to implement it. none of these are fascist reasons

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@penny @elomatreb there's plenty of non-fascist reasons to want that block gone

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb yeah, i agree. but in the specific case of freetusky there's not really intent to see. calling an app fascist or its developers fascists (or nazis!) is a heavy judgement based on nothing

re: unhinged tusky fascism rant 

@elomatreb that's a fair argument and i don't disagree, but intent matters to me as a factor and i can easily see this being a situation of the block being removed as protest against all blocking

unhinged tusky fascism rant 

i don't know what the deal is here and it worries me what block will come next. if we can't even handle blocking fascism as a community in a responsible way, anything more complicated is just going to be a headache and shitfest

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unhinged tusky fascism rant 

and this kind of mirrors the discussions i've seen around it. people will argue about how we need to block fascists from using our software, sure- but they won't discuss whether rick rolling people is the right way to do this, they will defend it as if this is the solution and it can't be improved on or removed. which doesn't make any internal sense if it's about blocking fascism

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unhinged tusky fascism rant 

i really find it hard to go from this little information to deciding that software, its author or its use is specifically to further the goals of fascists.

but on the other hand, tusky isn't exactly a democracy itself. the author added the easter egg and ignored all the community's objections on political and technical levels.

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unhinged tusky fascism rant 

it's not possible to conclude much about fascist intent from removing a block since there's a lot of different reasons you'd do it for. so in freetusky's case, was it done to specifically allow people to access gab and do fascism?

it's hard to tell because the author seems fairly private and freetusky as a project or in its code or its 13 commits hasn't clarified this. it could go either way.

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like first of all, there's a large swath of people that believe software shouldn't have artificial blocks in them for any reason (myself included), including people in the original pull request objecting to the block. we're not NECESSARILY fascists- useful idiots in the war against fascism at the worst i imagine. but intent matters here- the block being removed isn't necessarily to allow people to use fascist instances, but to use ANY instance.

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unhinged tusky fascism rant 

it absolutely blows my mind that some people think that forking and removing the gab rick roll easter egg block from tusky means the fork is fascist software by fascists for facists. it's such a low bar and i can't believe i've had this discussion more than 0 times

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@lyliawisteria @LunaDragofelis why is it a bad faith description? i genuinely don't understand?

the problem is that it's unclear to me if freetusky/husky is intending to make fascists free. you could argue based on results here but i'm interested in intent and i could easily see it being that they don't want artifical blocks in their software

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