@kuketzblog @imke
Is there a name for other federated platforms? I'm thinking Matrix messengers and software for the good old e-mail protocol.

Why are they not included in the term Fediverse? Is this word defined to be only for stuff you post publicly?

@kuketzblog @JohanEmpa @imke

@JohanEmpa @imke I didn't understand from your @kuketzblog link to Fediverse in Wikipedia [1] whether the Fediverse definition in [1] is an argument for NOT mentioning, for example, the mailing lists in the Fediverse overview [2]. Translate from german Wikipedia [1]:
"Fediverse (a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe") refers to a network of federated, independent social networks, microblogging services, and websites for online publishing or data hosting. "

@nmoplus
Both the English and the German Wikipedia page start with that, but they give no source for it

Wikipedia is supposed to have sources for everything and they say that they are not a publisher of original thought

So Wikipedia can not be where we take our definition for the word Fediverse. That said, it looks like there's no definition of Fediverse, it just kind of evolved into what it is on that page.

@JohanEmpa @nmoplus TL;DR: The Fediverse is big. We just mentioned some platforms to get the idea.

@kuketzblog @JohanEmpa @imke

The oldest protocols - I mean http and SMTP, POP3, IMAP were not considered. Although -if you look at de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedivers described in the German Wikipedia as a benchmark, the networks, communities based on it belong to Fediverse. What does the round think about it?

Die ältesten Protokolle - ich meine http und SMTP, POP3, IMAP blieben dabei unberücksichtigt. Obwohl - wenn man in der deutschen Wikipedia beschriebenes de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedivers als Messlatte betrachtet, gehören die darauf basierende Netzwerke, Communitys zu Fediverse. Was meint die Runde dazu?

@kuketzblog @JohanEmpa @imke

As far as I know, there are a lot of mailing lists whose contents are made generally accessible on websites and stimulate interaction. So if the definition [1] is considered authoritative for the contents of the overview [2], then I suggest that this overview be supplemented in the mailing list. Or if I get access to the template [2], then I create and publish a supplemented version of [2] with mailing list Fediverse-item :-).

@kuketzblog @JohanEmpa @imke

If by "connected" Wikipedia don't mean a technical protocol, but a connectedness in spirit, then the communities gathered in mailing lists are no less a part of the Fediverse than the more recent phenomena like Mastodon, Friendica or Hubzilla. And if the technical interface to mailing lists is missing, then this can be made up for ;-).

@kuketzblog @JohanEmpa @imke

@kuketzblog @nmoplus
Thanks, the Wikipedia page doesn't give any explanation to why Matrix platforms are excluded from the list. That's why I asked. But it's not important, I was just curious.

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