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The is .

You use open / libre / free software products and even install a and . You hope that you minimize data transfer to companies like . You hope for more . Then you check the forums, block-URLs etc. of that products. Results: Disappointing.

- pihole has default block lists hosted by amazon ( ...s3.amazonaws.com/...simple_tracking.txt) and microsoft (...githubusercontent.com)
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- cloudflare (v.firebog.net/hosts/lists.php?), list recommend by ,

- Forums /websites use the above mentioned providers:
- cloudflare (forums.kodi.tv, forum.kde.org, libreelec.tv)
- amazon (DuckDuckGo)
- someone over here in the Fediverse uses Google Drive to upload his LineageOS ROM for the Nexus 4 (mako)
- google analytics / tag manager (forums.opensuse.org, linux-club.de, nginx.org, lineageos.org)

The list continues, this was just a quick check.

I'm sad.

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@marco So? We fight them with their weapons.

I don't expect any FOSS project to deploy full stack using open-source-only tools. Thanks to those project I can self-host infrastructure that rivals the giants (ok, it doesn't, but it does the job for me).

@erik It's not about a fight. It's about knowledge. We can point them here for example: edri.org/ethical-web-dev/

@marco
It's also really annoying how many sites are completely broken if you just block all google services.

@mrln : We can just make a list out of it. Found today: Linux Professional Institute (lpi.org) is using google-analytics.com, fonts.googleapis.com and googletagmanager.com.

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