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Milan @milan

Tooting again because 🐈

Hey you partypeople from social.tchncs.de - i am not happy to do another statement but here you have it.

Due continuing abuse against a remote user called "ginny" from users of this instance, i just performed a temporaly suspend so this user is not anymore available from here and i hope to be able to un-suspend the user soon.

@milan Verstehe ich das richtig: Du hast die Belästigte von social.tchncs.de ausgeschlossen und nicht den Belästiger?

@stephanmaus hahahaha, das hängt davon ab wie du es verstehen willst, ich rede dir da nicht rein :joy:

@stephanmaus ne im ernst, es ist alles gesagt. im zweifel wühl dich durch weitere statements.

@stephanmaus @milan War ne ernst gemeinte Frage: Kann jetzt kein/e Nutzer/in von social.tchncs.de mehr mit XY kommunizieren, weil 1 Nutzer von social.tchncs.de XY belästigt hat?

@stephanmaus ich habe ernst geantwortet. ich mache dazu keine weitere aussage, scroll dich durch meine toots.

@milan it is generally a bad idea to restrict the victim in a case of abuse. if there are consequences they should restrict the abusers.

@bithive because the victim ist punished not the abuser.

@benni Isn't the victim protected from the abuser?

@bithive and from thousands of potential friends. do you say a victim of robbery to not leave the house to not get robbed?

@benni This is a false analogy. And I could easily create my own to counter yours but this would be arguing for the sake of arguing.

@bithive @benni no, the victim is not protected. Suspending ginny from social.tchncs.de just stops her posts from going _in_ to the instance, her attackers can still see & harrass her.

@balrogboogie @benni So this will just cut the feedback loop then. What else could have been done? Or what would be the responsible action?

@bithive @benni so, @noelle has the answer to "what would be the responsible action," so I'm just going to link you to her post: mastodon.social/@noelle/482114

@benni ok this seams only to lock abusers out of one instance - what about every other instance where he could register? So this would just well export abuse to other instances?

@milan what action are you taking against the users? What steps to prevent this happening in the future?

@milan What you did is, that everyone who follows Ginny (like me) can't see her anymore? It affects everyone who like to read her posts - so you effectually silenced her! How does that affect or stop the harassers?
Why not suspending the harassers? Or - better - blocking the harassers posts from leaving the local timeline?

@milan (actually I'm not affected because i'm not on social.tchncs.de, i just wanted to point out that i really hope, that you didn't block the victim, because that's how i read your statement.)

@jensscholz please do research before such toots