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So remember how I was saying you shouldn’t have to know or care if your operating system is immutable for an immutable operating system to be usable by everyday folks? (You know, clever folks, like brain surgeons and astronauts, not just your regular garden variety tech hobbyist with time to spare following instructions from a wiki.)

Seems others think so too… #VanillaOS sounds very promising. #Fedora #Silverblue folks should take some notes.

vanillaos.org/

vanillaos.orgVanilla OS - is your next Operating System.Vanilla OS is an operating system built with simplicity in mind. It's fast, lightweight, beautiful and ready for all your daily tasks.
#os#design#linux

@aral Hm. How can there be a choice of package management when Ubuntu is the base? Seems more like optionally adding to it.

Hm. "Community" directly links to discord, code is hosted by Micrtosoft.

Other than that, neat. Makes me curious what a "Chocolate" Distro would be like…

@mray @aral
I hate to say it, but discord has still better UX than element.
I haven't really tried mattermost or rocket.chat yet, but my hopes aren't that high from what I heard.
Still all those are probably usable so it's not a real excuse, but convenience does matter to most normies. 😩

@treefit @aral I would assume when you build a community around a Free Software operating system as alternativeto MacOS and Windows you kind of left the idea to cater to default "normies".

But I get your point, even without having used Discrod. It still says something about a community that asks members to maintain walled garden-accounts in order to participate, though.

@mray @aral What I really find annoying is that some communities required the discord account to be linked to a phone number to be able to participate.

mray

@treefit @aral Quick reminder: requires a Microsoft account for raising issues and contributing code. Just saying 😏

@mray @aral you can still use the forum for reporting issues, but sure it's a point, but I don't think moving now would result in more contributors, just in a lot of work migrating the CI.
Like yeah transifex is bad, also in terms of usability - its really laggy, but migration is quite some work and will our translators follow us to a new platform?

@treefit @aral With that attitude towards the network effect I don't see how DeltaChat has anything to offer; You can still send emails, even while having a WhatsApp account - right?

Incidentally Codeberg just recently added a translation service (weblate)… I'm certain your contributors would understand a move towards that direction.

@mray If you really want to discuss this @r10s is the person you wanna talk to, not me, I personally would welcome a switch, but then again I'm neither a translator nor am I managing translation efforts.

Also ideology is not everything, shooting yourself in the foot because you aim for perfectionism is not a wise move, because it blocks your time from achieving actual good, like should I stop using public transport because they are hanging up cameras? I can walk too, just takes way longer 🤷

@mray @r10s

BTW nothing is set in stone you can join deltachat and move the translations in this direction and convince the others with arguments to follow your approach. 😉

@mray @treefit @aral i am a big fan of #codeberg , we are watching things closely, but as treefit pointed out, there are tradeoffs.