The is a great piece by Rich Bartlett of #Enspiral, #Loomio, and #TheHub, talking about the advantages of federations of small groups, over networks of loosely connected individuals:
It's reasons like these I encourage community-hosting more than self-hosting. Note: I'm not against self-hosting, for those who have the skills and motivation to set up and maintain it, it's just not my ideal that everyone self-hosts.
@strypey the problem with community-host is trust: Web doesn't support end-to-end encryption and the host can see guests' data. With large corporations people don't care if an employee see their data while they don't trust even a friend of theirs as host.
We need non-web-centric services and at the moment we just have IMAP for emails or a way to use e2e encryption on the Web.
@strypey does Wire have a Web client? Does it support e2e encryption? I was not able to find any information
So the question boils down to: where is the web server? If it's in the possession of the end-user, you may have E2EE. If it's in the cloud, you don't have E2EE.
It's really as simple as that, anyone telling you otherwise is selling snake-oil.
@teleclimber Thanks for sharing this! I hope this proceeds.
@HerraBRE yes same here. There was a lot of activity during the summer but now it's stalled a bit. I suppose that happens , but I hope they are not stuck on a fundamental or something.
I always tell people about it when I get half a chance because the more people we have asking tc39 to do this the better!
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