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#self-hosting Federated #git repositories ?

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@jordila Even though being free, reliable productive hosting of a instance requires both a bit of server resources (not even talking about CI) and knowledge (as the system itself is somewhat complex and includes quite a bunch of movable pieces one should know about in order to operate that). Makes me wonder again why self-hosting is so desirable. After all, large part of githubs success was *freeing* people from the need to self-host infrastructure for hosting their projects. ;)

@z428 umh.. alternative point of view . Agree , , #gitlab is quite

If re-starting ... we'll probably go choosing a  lighter ( Gogs , ... ) solutions .

On other hand  SaaS services feel to me like a #trap ... unless you are able (at wish and effort ) #self-host yourself. In a 'free as in freedom' software basis ?

@jordila ... increasingly more complex (talking docker / containers and all this orchestration stuff). In worst case, people will go "self-hosting" on Amazon or some provider like that. That's why I think we need a "libre approach to SaaS" and providers who manage to offer that kind of hosting.

@z428 Agree ... #libreSaaS ? we were talking on that yesterday ... with a colleague ( it was not #RMS , BTW ,  :-) )... can you extend on the «That's why I think we need a "libre approach to SaaS" and providers who manage to offer that kind of hosting. »

@jordila Some thoughts on my ideas of see here: log.z428.eu/posts/libresaas/ ... maybe completely off, no idea. ;)

@z428 «[..] Yes it takes money. No, “Libre SaaS” shouldn’t be about free-of-charge hosting. It should be about valuable, sustainable, fair hosting, also from a financial point of view.[..] » ... agree, that's basically the #fairTrade ... approach ?

You might feel that money is energy, ... where are you putting you're energy ? Who is behind of the service ? In which labor conditions ?

#Amazon ... and the rest of  #GAFAm  have some answers on that .. , i'm afraid of ...
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@jordila Well yes, I *very* much like that analogy as I think this is exactly what it should be like. Maybe from that point of view, makes more sense than . This would include all the things "fair traide" includes, in other aspects, such as support for "local" producers committed to a sustainable and ethical supply chain (reduced energy consumption, reduced co2 footprint, ...) and focus on making a "fair" understanding of costs and pricings for that. :)

@z428  #fairSaaS sounds good, yeah ... sure ,  libre | #freesoftware communities allow the "think (develop) global ..., act locally ... " and strengthens a cooperativist way of economy ? I might be dreaming ...
We need to show the world about this #ethical ' value chain' ... or whatever you want to call it, kind of 'virtous circle'...

Otherwise , Micro$soft et al.  ... will do ... ( are already doing ? )

@jordila Yes. Talking "fair trade" and local / regional products in terms of food, in example, there seems quite an active community of people already supporting that. We need to find structures and approaches to *also* make them demand the same for their technology. Even in our fairtrade / ethical store, just one(!) of the customers I know uses a FairPhone in example while a load of people are on iPhone. That's where we possibly need to get started - and then dive deeper... ;)