@jordila Even though being free, reliable productive hosting of a #gitlab instance requires both a bit of server resources (not even talking about CI) and knowledge (as the system itself is somewhat complex and includes quite a bunch of movable pieces one should know about in order to operate that). Makes me wonder again why self-hosting is so desirable. After all, large part of githubs success was *freeing* people from the need to self-host infrastructure for hosting their projects. ;)
@jordila ... increasingly more complex (talking docker / containers and all this orchestration stuff). In worst case, people will go "self-hosting" on Amazon or some provider like that. That's why I think we need a "libre approach to SaaS" and providers who manage to offer that kind of hosting.
@jordila Some thoughts on my ideas of #libreSaaS see here: https://log.z428.eu/posts/libresaas/ ... maybe completely off, no idea. ;)
@jordila Well yes, I *very* much like that #fairtrade analogy as I think this is exactly what it should be like. Maybe from that point of view, #fairSaaS makes more sense than #libreSaaS. This would include all the things "fair traide" includes, in other aspects, such as support for "local" producers committed to a sustainable and ethical supply chain (reduced energy consumption, reduced co2 footprint, ...) and focus on making a "fair" understanding of costs and pricings for that. :)
@jordila Yes. Talking "fair trade" and local / regional products in terms of food, in example, there seems quite an active community of people already supporting that. We need to find structures and approaches to *also* make them demand the same for their technology. Even in our fairtrade / ethical store, just one(!) of the customers I know uses a FairPhone in example while a load of people are on iPhone. That's where we possibly need to get started - and then dive deeper... ;)
We need to show the world about this #ethical ' value chain' ... or whatever you want to call it, kind of 'virtous circle'...
Otherwise , Micro$soft et al. ... will do ... ( are already doing ? )