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State of the evening: Hacking my way through and to figure out whether there's a good cross-platform UI alternative to which is not based on and the whole web technology heap.

@z428 did you look at flutter? What bottlenecks do you see in chrome?

Kristian / z428 @z428

@sweetietheyknow Well I want / need to build desktop applications (Linux, Apple, Windows), and feels not really like a good choice for that. It's chunky and large even for smaller applications, and the whole technology stack on top of it seems a fragile mess in many aspects... :|

@z428 ah well I was referring to their desktop solutions in progress. I’d really like to say profile electron and see. Sure the web can be ugly, but it’s not all that bad.

@sweetietheyknow Ah ok, thanks - wasn't even aware of desktop flutter. Gonna have a look. :) Don't really have a problem with web technology, it's only that tools such as seem ... still immature to say the very least. We have some larger based projects we're not permanently working on, and if you check them out and try working with them even after a couple of weeks, it's interesting how much things can go wrong with "wrong" versions of , or third-party modules. :|