Reclaiming RSS

“Before Twitter, before algorithmic timelines filtered our reality for us, before surveillance capitalism, there was RSS: Really Simple Syndication … As we move away from the centralised web to the peer web, it’s time to rediscover, re-embrace, and reclaim RSS.”

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@aral Should we take on reclaiming , or should we rather try focussing on technologies such as to replace ? For what I remember, one of the total drawbacks of was that it wasn't in any way interactive whereas Twitter and related platforms allowed for comments and discussion starting with day one.

@z428 ActivityPub isn’t a replacement for RSS (it is orders of magnitude more difficult to implement). We can embrace both (and more – like datproject.org).

@aral I know. :) Just wondered whether, in an world, is still required - except for being a "simpler" standard, does it provide any features that can't be done with as well? I wonder because right now I see a lot of blogs moving away from dynamic web hostings and quite some of them end up offering for syndication - and embedding platform such as because comments.. ;)

@z428 Yeah surveillance devices like Disqus are a problem. I see RSS existing alongside. Doesn’t have to be either/or. Well suited for news.

@aral The techie in me agrees wholeheartedly. Looking at end users however (the crowd that still mostly remains on Twitter and seems quite hesitant when it comes to changing tools), I wonder whether too many alternative technical approaches at hand are a benefit or more of a hazard. seems a viable, agreeable solution so why not fully focussing on that at least for a while? ;)

@aral @z428

The advantage with RSS is that's it's just a file and can trivially be done with a site generator and a static web host. AP requires a running application that distributes the posts to the followers, the equivalent of RSS+WebSub.

I would love for there to be implementations of the RSS+WebSub-equivalent subset of AP for a whole bunch of languages.
@aral @z428 But I would also love for our OStatus-compatible microblogs to never stop supporting OStatus, and start supporting Atom without WebSub, like Friendica does.

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@notclacke @aral Sounds valid. Well, maybe at the heart of things, I'd like to see a *meaningful* mix of protocols providing an end-user experience as good and well-integrated as somewhat possible (Twitter and Facebook are the benchmark here) while reducing the need to make decisions between different implementations of the same "use case" to a bare minimum. There's "always more than one way to do it", but there shouldn't be too many... ;)

@z428 @aral With Disqus, Google+ and spot.im using an URL as the key for a discussion, all we need would be an RSS reader, that implements these discussion sites. And these sites allowing access to the comments from multiple accounts (e.g. if the website owner also implemented Disqus already - don't know if you could still see the conversations from a different account).

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