What's the one thing every web user can do to fight #SurveillanceCapitalism ?

Replace the Google Chrome browser

I've started a new website to send a message to Google that we prefer the internet without them



@jamesmullarkey Interesting, like the approach, even though it gets complex if you take a closer look - in example at Firefox and Mozilla funding (and its at least partial dependency upon money raised by including Google as search engine). 😐


@_microbe101 Sure. Still I wonder whether Mozilla and Firefox would be able to survive without Google funding. Same goes for some other FLOSS entities (GNOME...) that count Google and similar industry heavyweights as regular important donors. How "Libre" is that really if it's essentially "gratis" because of a large industry funding it...? Tough question, in my opinion.


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@z428 @_microbe101 survive I think yes but obviously at a different scale. The Google money is a crazy high % of their income though.

@jamesmullarkey Yes. That's something I'm also afraid of. I'd be much more "happy" knowing I had some option to pay a fair amount of money for a Firefox environment that lives completely off a community backing it and doesn't *need* any contracts with search engines to pay any of its operations.


@z428 The bad thing is: Even, if you use browsers like Midori, most often the browser engine is the Google one. Coding a browser engine seems to be no simple task.

Because of this I was astonished, how compatible min ist. This browser is entirely written in Javascript. But I think, the browser engine may also be the Google one?!? Don't know. Writing a browser engine in JS would be crazy, I think...

@jamesmullarkey @_microbe101

@herrdoering @z428 @jamesmullarkey
#GNUicecat 1/2 is a firefox esr fork with implemented wrapper, but has also goo gl
search, with the opt.out (remove)
on mobile, from #fdroid
i have other options to switch, by ever
link i wan't to open, non of them are set as default browser.

@herrdoering @z428 @jamesmullarkey
2/2 is it a known #securityfail & #privacyrisk to
enable the "send a do not track request" flag?
only in #incognito modus was the right setting, because always on DNT makes you more outstanding for #fingerprinting ?

@herrdoering @z428 @_microbe101 Midori uses a Google stuff? That would suprise me. Tbh the midori website is so suspect I'm thinking of removing it.

@jamesmullarkey Sorry, the engine of #Midori is #WebKit and this is not from Google, it is from Apple.


So it's not Google, but still it is not selfwritten. Another browser, which uses #WebKitGtk is #Epiphany.

@z428 @_microbe101

@z428 @_microbe101 @jamesmullarkey
What's Kristall clear here, is that a totally different economic model is required. Alphabet has nothing that was not given to them by everybody who's been working in Tech or online in the past decades. Now, if, and it's a big "if", this "everybody" realises this power, Internet & Digital Comms tech could still become something more useful than just another tool to "sell you shit you don't need"

@kino Yes. Fully agree. I am, however, unsure who should be spear-heading the movement to trigger change towards a totally different economic model, let alone knowing how exactly it should look like... 😟

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@z428 @_microbe101 @jamesmullarkey
I think an important challenge here is to get one's head out of the silicon valley promoted idea that tech is liberating, and that valley tech, optimisation, machine assistance, etc.. (a.k.a. alphabet et al) will somehow liberate society from a tyrannical system of nation state governments generally referred to as "democracy", by replacing this with a tyrannical system of corporate control to be known as "democracy"

@z428 @_microbe101 @jamesmullarkey
If we keep it minimal and only consider this different model in current context, (otherwise we get into a debate on the entire system!) - There might be something to be said for having what might be considered basic, or essential services only run as non profits.

@z428 @_microbe101 @jamesmullarkey
As for who, I do think the EU /might/ be relevant here. But we do need to not see govt as a problem and tech as a solution. hmm.. but in order to do that we first need to implement something like "democracy"

@kino @z428 @jamesmullarkey agree with you **kino** strong & active democracy should be impl. in the €U.

in the meantime, the eu- headqu. making to much regulations in a sect0r they don't know exactly, from my point of view.

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