"Wayland solves no issues I have but breaks almost everything I need. And usually it stays broken, because the Wayland folks only seem to care about Gnome, and alienating everyone else in the process. "
This whole thing is thoroughly scary, not from a technical point of view but looking at the picture of the FLOSS community it is creating. 😐
@z428 Yup, definitely a worrying trend. I feel like there's a lot of parallels with the general increase in intolerance irl, tbh.
@z428 Still, that guy's list is basically "screen recording is broken" (it was for a while, but that's been fixed) and "Redshift is broken" (except that GNOME added equivalent functionality years ago), which is hardly 80%. To provide some contradictory annecdata: I've been using Wayland day-to-day for something like three or four years and it's been totally fine.
@z428 Incidentally, I have been subscribed to the Redshift bug covering lack of support for Wayland since basically day one, and it's best characterised as a lot of people complaining Wayland and no-one (including the maintainer) doing anything about it, so it's hardly surprising it never got fixed.
@mjog Seems like the ever-occurring issue: "Something's broken - so wayland/systemd/<insert-whatever> needs to fix that to be compatible with <old-tech> again".
@mjog I'm using it then and now (it seems), haven't so far apparently found anything that broke this way. There's still a backward-compatibility issue with Linux desktops in general but that's not just something wayland is to blame for - like why can I install and run a 25-year old binary on Windows but fail to install and run a 6-year old binary on a Linux desktop distribution? 😉
@z428 Yeah it's funny, we don't have the problem of trying to support 25 year old binaries like MS does, yet some people can't let go of 50 year old init systems and 40 year old display servers.
@mjog True. 🙂 But, too, we are missing out on either culture or process to come to a consensus of what we use to replace these decades-old legacy. At this point, we're currently far off from what seems the strength of FLOSS (collaboration over competition). 😐
@mjog Yes, indeed. Seems a totally broken culture of communication in too many places, not just the political mainstream.
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