osnews.com/story/132975/think-

"Wayland solves no issues I have but breaks almost everything I need. And usually it stays broken, because the Wayland folks only seem to care about Gnome, and alienating everyone else in the process. "

This whole thing is thoroughly scary, not from a technical point of view but looking at the picture of the FLOSS community it is creating. 😐

@z428 Really not sure why a site like OSNews would be posting this (aside from the click-bait). It certainly isn't news-worthy. Would they cover someone who still uses WinXP ranting about how Windows 10 "breaks everything"? Or someone complaining about recent Linux kernel versions breaking their ipchains scripts so they're still running 2.2?

Like anti-systemd cranks, best we just let children like that have a cry to themselves in the corner and get on with life imho.

@mjog (The linked article with features not yet around in wayland surely *does* however draw a somewhat bleak picture. In a "real-world" project, one possibly would let such a project grow to a point where it is > 80% complete and only _then_ start rolling it out step-by-step. 😐 )

@z428 Yup, definitely a worrying trend. I feel like there's a lot of parallels with the general increase in intolerance irl, tbh.

@z428 Still, that guy's list is basically "screen recording is broken" (it was for a while, but that's been fixed) and "Redshift is broken" (except that GNOME added equivalent functionality years ago), which is hardly 80%. To provide some contradictory annecdata: I've been using Wayland day-to-day for something like three or four years and it's been totally fine.

@z428 Incidentally, I have been subscribed to the Redshift bug covering lack of support for Wayland since basically day one, and it's best characterised as a lot of people complaining Wayland and no-one (including the maintainer) doing anything about it, so it's hardly surprising it never got fixed.

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@mjog Seems like the ever-occurring issue: "Something's broken - so wayland/systemd/<insert-whatever> needs to fix that to be compatible with <old-tech> again".

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