Die Wahl des richtigen E-Mail-Anbieters ist für europäische Unternehmen 2025 wichtiger denn je. Mit der neuen Trump-Regierung und dem US CLOUD Act steigt das Risiko für vertrauliche Geschäftsdaten erheblich. Gleichzeitig drohen bei DSGVO-Verstößen empfindliche Strafen.

In unsicheren Zeiten kann die richtige Wahl einen entscheidenden Wettbewerbsvorteil darstellen.

Mehr dazu in unserem Blog: https://mailbox.org/de/post/die-besten-e-mail-anbieter-fuer-europa

Road Obstacle
Litchfield, Illinois, USA

Southern Illinois must have had a regional USPS manager years ago who liked putting mailboxes in the middle of the street. This is only area I've been to where I've seen this done.

So I've given @mailfence a very quick test on their Free tier.

That seems to be quite reasonable alternative for e-mail services. In som parts it's what I would expect @mailbox_org being. Except of one thing: Unencrypted incoming e-mails will not be stored encrypted.

Since I'm on the free tier currently, I've not tested the IMAP integration.

The weakness of #Mailfence and #Mailbox are that the PGP setup requires some efforts to happen. The "settings" panel on Mailfence is cleaner and better organized than mailbox.org, but the latter one is capable of ensuring all received e-mails are stored encrypted - regardless if it was encrypted at arrival or not.

PGP key management is still not as easy as it should be for non-tech users. "It should just happen automatically", is my stance here. It's close to being good, but you need to explicitly enable encryption on each mail you send - unless you reply to an already encrypted mail. This will confuse users and it will result in more unencrypted mails sent than intended.

Neither Mailfence nor mailbox.org will decrypt encrypted Subject fields.

I've briefly tested the WebDAV integration, which seems to work. But WebDAV is not end-to-end-encrypted, so uploaded data will not be stored in so-called "zero access" mode. This means the Mailfence people managing their servers can access and read your data. This will be the same for CalDAV/CardDAV too (calendar and contacts synching)

Mailbox.org recently announced they will upgrade their login system - which is long overdue. Their OTP setup is currently just confusing and very far from user friendly. Here Mailfence is very straight forward.

Both Mailfence and #mailbox_org still got quite a long way to provide a properly privacy enabled service. They're on a good path, but currently far from the capabilities of @protonprivacy, even on the most basic features in e-mail.

Middle of the Road Mailbox
Gillespie, Illinois, USA

Help !
Où sont les fedinautes qui ont leur messagerie/cloud sur
https://mailbox.org/en/ ?
Je cherche à me dégoogler/déyahoozer et cette alternative UE me parait intéressante.

Qu'en pensez-vous les utilisateurices ?

I'm bamboozled! Why does @mailbox_org limit passwords to ASCII characters? What happened to UTF-8?

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𝙀𝙪𝙧𝙤𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙣 𝙖𝙡𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙣𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙂𝙢𝙖𝙞𝙡
Basic plans
#COMBELL.com €2,99/mo Professional hosting provider.Secure email services.Enterprise solutions.
#MAILFENCE.com End-to-end encrypted email. No ads, full privacy.
#NUBO.coop €2,50/mo Cooperative email provider. Privacy-first approach. Subscription model.
#ECLIPSO.eu Advertising messages.Multi-functional service.Cloud storage included.
#GMX.com/mail/
#MAIL.de/fr Secure email service. Advanced spam protection.
#MAILBOX.org €1,00/mo Secure service with encryption. Integration with office tools.

You have probably seen this #viral #infographic on #eu #digitalsovereignty by #reddit user u/lukakopajtic. It was viral but not very accurate recommending #bluesky and #firefox as "EU alternatives"? How? Anyway, he just updated the infographic, and it's much, much better! Most issues have been corrected. I think there is still a couple of issues I disagree with: 1) recommending #matrix instead of #jabber #xmpp 2) recommending #lineageos instead of #grapheneos (but OK, I can understand this if the focus is on self-sovereignty only), 3) recommending #droidify instead of #accrescent (but, even here, I can understand if the goal is to replace #playstore ), and 4) recommending #thunderbird as a comparison to #gmail (nothing wrong with Thunderbird, but that's an email client, not a Gmail-like suite provider, I would have rather recommended #mailfence or #mailbox ). Kudos for the initiative though, the intentions are good!

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1je10e8/ive_updated_the_digital_independence_cheat_sheet/

Every time I look at #mailbox providers, I get happier about my #Runbox.

I just gave a look at #Migadu, which was heavily recommended in some threads here. In 5 minutes I found 3 things I don't like:

1) No explicit pricing to get more storage space beyond the plan's default.

2) Says servers are "in France" but doesn't say with whom in the #privacy policy.
https://migadu.com/privacy/#data-processors-and-sub-processors

3) Prohibits "immoral, unethical or socially unacceptable activity".
https://migadu.com/use/#anti-violence-commitment

Satire und Realität sind nicht mehr zu unterscheiden. #Mailbox https://mastodon.social/@derpostillon/114144785508626332

Andreas Audretsch @AnAudretsch #Die_Grünen

Unvermögen, #Mailbox-Possen od. Foodblogger aus München sind für uns nicht maßgeblich. Aber Ideologie u. Selbstbediener-Mentalität der Union müssen enden.

Es geht um die Sache: #Sicherheit u. eine Reform der #Schuldenbremse für echte #Investitionen in #Klimaschutz & #Daseinsvorsorge

Wisst ihr was ich an #twitter #vermisse ?
Ich habe nicht mitbekommen wem #Merz was auf die #Mailbox gesprochen hat. Auf twitter hätte ich einfach Merz Mailbox in die #suchleiste eingeben können und hätter erfahren worum es geht. Auf #mastodon funktoniert das aber nicht. Kann mir jemand beibringen wie man auf Mastodon nach Dingen sucht? #unplugtrump