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@jeffowski It's a bad poem by a bad person and people need to stop quoting it. https://mastodon.social/deck/@Alon/112770160114866875
@Alon @jeffowski it's described as a confession, and he only came to it the hard way. But he recounted it time and again with various inclusions to different audiences.
Are you sure you haven't conflated his former life with his latter life?
@rood @jeffowski His original version omitted the Jews, because he was so anti-Semitic that he didn't seem to mind what the Nazis were doing the Jews even while in the camps; Yad Vashem did not give him Righteous Among the Nations status, since he only did anything for converts to Christianity. It's self-pitying bullshit, so of course Europe (and CANZUS) eats that shit up, to avoid centering the biggest group of victims of the Nazis.
@Alon That's a strange accusation. If you took any recent notice of German mainstream press or had visited a German school, you'd get the impression that Jews are almost exclusively in the focus as victims of the Nazis. The reason for that, I'd say, is first anticommunism, and second how the presumed German reformation and regret can be weaponized for national geopolitical ambitions. @rood @jeffowski
@skaphle @rood @jeffowski I'm not talking about modern democratic Germany, after the left won the Historikerstreit (the self-proclaimed anti-communists were defending Hitler; Jäckel's view of the uniqueness of the Holocaust comes from the opposite end). I'm talking about Niemöller, a man who evidently preferred Nazi Germany to modern democratic multicultural Germany. Stop commemorating that anti-Semitic shit.
@Alon I didn't know about his views. The quote is usually shared without context and I've never seen it as a promotion of the person but only of the idea. I think it's even more powerful coming from a person with problematic views. It might even be more relatable for those who need to hear it. @rood @jeffowski
@skaphle @rood @jeffowski It's a fake quote. Remember, he *did not include the Jews*. He included smaller groups of victims, because he himself was anti-Semitic. Stop doing this right-wing worship of every anti-Semite who washed himself of the Nazis after the war; it's the same mentality that led Nazi journalists to get rehabilitated after the war, often by Axel Springer himself.
@Alon I just want to give you feedback that your tone and your accusations are prohibitive to a productive dialogue. Have a good day @rood @jeffowski
@skaphle @rood @jeffowski You are a German tone-policing a Jewish immigrant on memorialization of the Holocaust. You must be really excited for the growth of AfD.
@Alon I don't need you to lecture me on my identity which is none of your business. You are not my ally and I don't need to take your abuse. Goodbye.