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Émilio Gonzalez<p>I wish <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> allowed for a single identity to be used on myltiple services.</p><p>I don't want to create a mastodon account AND a loops account AND a pixelfed account AND a lemmy account. Why can't I just have <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@res260" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>res260</span></a></span>? :( </p><p>If AP steals one idea from <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a>, it should be this.</p>
Open Risk<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mbajur" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mbajur</span></a></span> the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> docs are a full spec, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> leaves a lot as "implementation details". </p><p>They likely serve fairly different use cases but unfortunately a comprehensive analysis is missing. </p><p>My gut feeling, activitypub will be the one dominating highly tailored communities, while atproto more large public forums</p>
mbajur<p>I'm looking for some insight on why it's NOT a good idea to build next <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> project on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a>) and stick to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a>? </p><p>By quickly glancing through the ATP docs, it seems like a much more pleasant experience to work with over AP but there's probably more to it than just the technical part. </p><p>Can anyone <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/help" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>help</span></a> me understand any atproto downsides?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a></p>
mindsets<p>So far I haven't found a single bridged <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> account that displays wisdom or creativity equal to the best in the ActivityPub 'verse.</p><p>Have the brightest minds, there, decided not to form bridges? Or am I just unlucky when it comes to finding them over here?</p><p>The <a href="https://mindly.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> technology is comparatively sketchy too, from the perspective of power dynamics.</p><p>And doesn't Bluesky also prevent editing (I'm not sure about that, though)?</p><p>Um, someone remind me...what's the appeal of Bluesky???</p>
Konstantin 🔭<p>"The New Yorker profiled Bluesky CEO Jay Graber. </p><p>It also includes a nugget that Graber and Mastodon founder Eugen Rochko met about having the platforms interoperate, but “each told me that the other seemed more interested in having the rival platform migrate onto their own protocol,” author Kyle Chayka writes."</p><p>Original post: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/644670/the-new-yorker-profiled-bluesky-ceo-jay-graber?v=1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theverge.com/news/644670/the-n</span><span class="invisible">ew-yorker-profiled-bluesky-ceo-jay-graber?v=1</span></a></p><p>The New Yorker Post 👉 <a href="https://archive.is/WPV8C" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">archive.is/WPV8C</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://toot.iamkonstantin.eu/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> <a href="https://toot.iamkonstantin.eu/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://toot.iamkonstantin.eu/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://toot.iamkonstantin.eu/tags/AtProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AtProto</span></a></p>
TechHelpKB.com 📚<p>The technology upon which Bluesky is built — the AT Protocol (or ATProto for short) — is being used to develop dozens more applications designed to work together as part of an open social web. Here are some of them.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensocialweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensocialweb</span></a> <br><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/04/beyond-bluesky-these-are-the-apps-building-social-experiences-on-the-at-protocol/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">techcrunch.com/2025/04/04/beyo</span><span class="invisible">nd-bluesky-these-are-the-apps-building-social-experiences-on-the-at-protocol/</span></a></p>
Reilly Spitzfaden (they/them)<p>I tried installing <a href="https://skylight.social/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">skylight.social/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> (short form video app that uses the AT Protocol) on my “degoogled” GrapheneOS phone just to see what it's like, and it immediately demanded that I install Google Play services in order to use it</p><p>It's possible to sandbox them on Graphene OS and I do have a user account with them for my banking app, but I'm really not interested in using a social app that demands them</p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GrapheneOS</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/DeGoogle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeGoogle</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SkylightApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkylightApp</span></a></p>
Timothy R. Butler<p><a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> *could* make cross-communication with the <a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> easy. They *could* make use of <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://snarfed.org/about" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>snarfed.org</span></a></span> 's <a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/BridgyFed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BridgyFed</span></a> a button in the UI rather than something users need to discover. They *could* simply add <a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> alongside <a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/AtProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AtProto</span></a>. But they don't. Right now, Meta with <a href="https://mastodon.faithtree.social/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> is a far better representative of things open than Bluesky.</p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>Good comparison by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://indieweb.social/@laurenshof" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>laurenshof</span></a></span> of two <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> / <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> video apps and the differences between their approaches: <a href="https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-report-110/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">fediversereport.com/bluesky-re</span><span class="invisible">port-110/</span></a></p>
Schnatterick<p>is it possible to search for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> Acconts that bridge into the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> ? </p><p>I use <a href="https://fed.brid.gy/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">fed.brid.gy/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> myself and that seams to work fine and I hope the other way around too </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediAsk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediAsk</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FediHelp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FediHelp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FollowerPower" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FollowerPower</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MastoAsk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastoAsk</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPup</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a></p>
Open Risk<p>Thinking about internet protocols like <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> or <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> as just "social media", namely platforms for sharing cat images, influencers and followers, shitposting and memes, trolls and flamewars etc. is missing the point entirely. </p><p>These are merely emergent behaviors when people interact with primitive forms of "digital society". </p><p>In truth these are "societal media", they increasingly capture a good fraction of human reality. The masters of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/surveillancecapitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>surveillancecapitalism</span></a> know this all too well.</p>
Scott M. StolzThere has been a lot discussion about whether Bluesky is truly capable of being decentralized or not, especially considering the costs of replicating some of the centralized services that Bluesky offers. That is a valid question that is subject to debate. Technically it can be decentralized, but so far hasn't been... for a variety of reasons.<br><br>I think that Bluesky and the Fediverse look at things very differently. <br><br>When the Fediverse looks at decentralization, they think of servers and platforms that could be run by individuals or small communities. Decentralized to the level of the individual. And the fediverse community seems to be adverse to large instances, as seen by many complaints that certain Mastodon instances are becoming too large.<br><br>But Bluesky is looking at the organization level. In other words, could another large organization create another competing Twitter on the AT Protocol? Or could some organization create a Facebook or TikTok equivalent on the AT Protocol?&nbsp;&nbsp;Basically the concept of having the equivalents of Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok all being able to talk to one another, all run by different organizations, not individuals.<br><br>Basically, how the AT Protocol becomes decentralized is when some organization creates a TikTok equivalent that uses AT Protocol, as an example, and they create their own AT Protocol stack to support it. One billionaire recently offered money to anyone who would build one.<br><br>So we are talking about different levels of decentralization here: the organizational level or the individual level. <br><br>I don't think these camps will ever agree on what decentralization means since they look at things very differently. Luckily these protocols can be bridged, and some platforms are multi-protocol, which would allow people to choose the level of decentralization they want.<br><br>#<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/search?tag=fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/search?tag=bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bluesky</a> #<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/search?tag=activitypub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">activitypub</a> #<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/search?tag=atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atproto</a> #<a class="" href="https://loves.tech/search?tag=atprotocol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atprotocol</a>
Tech Pizza Mondays<p>The ATProTO meetup on April 14th conflicts with Tech Pizza Monday, so we will try to hijack it. Just kidding! Or are we? Either way, the details are in the Luma link. <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/Toronto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Toronto</span></a> <a href="https://social.linux.pizza/tags/ATProTO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProTO</span></a> <a href="https://lu.ma/7u2zjfeu" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">lu.ma/7u2zjfeu</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Paul Frazee<p><a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> devs! Over last weekend there was a lot of questions about best practices with Lexicon There's plenty more documentation to be written, but I thought I'd share some initial guidance to help clarify how I think about it<br><br><a href="https://www.pfrazee.com/blog/lexicon-guidance" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Guidance on Authoring Lexicons</a></p>
Paul Giulan<p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a></p><p><a href="https://thelibre.news/why-i-recommend-against-bluesky/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">thelibre.news/why-i-recommend-</span><span class="invisible">against-bluesky/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/centralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralization</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federation</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/federated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federated</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialMedia</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/SocialWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SocialWeb</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bsky</span></a></p>
Maxi 10x 💉<p>Das ist doch alles Blödsinn bis Betrug. Sie tun so, als würden sie nicht den einzigen Big Graph Service des Netzwerks betreiben (und andere wird es wahrscheinlich nie geben, weil zu kostenprohibitiv).</p><p>»But although <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> is the largest app built on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> at this time, the social network itself was not the ATmosphere Conference’s focus. Here, Bluesky was just another developer«</p><p><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/25/a-world-without-caesars-how-the-atproto-community-is-rebuilding-the-web-to-return-power-to-the-people/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">techcrunch.com/2025/03/25/a-wo</span><span class="invisible">rld-without-caesars-how-the-atproto-community-is-rebuilding-the-web-to-return-power-to-the-people/</span></a></p>
AT Protocol Community<p>Thank you to Tori <a class="mention" href="https://bsky.app/profile/buildwithtori.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@buildwithtori.com</a> for being a positive voice and covering things with video. While Bluesky is microblogging first, video is a great way to educate and express emotion and excitement, that can help us explain <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23ATproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATproto</a> to many more people.<br><br>RE: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:76iqtegcbbr4pbcxomka5pat/post/3ll5g2dttto2v" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:76iqtegcbbr4pbcxomka5pat/post/3ll5g2dttto2v</a></p>
Daniël Franke :panheart:<p>I’m honestly disappointed by anti-capitalists thinking that bluesky/AT will end any better than Twitter, Facebook, or other venture capitalist backed for-profit social media.</p><p>Yes, it’s fun now, and that’s because they are keeping it fun to gather a critical mass of users so that they get the network effect on their side. At some point the capital will dry up, and investors will want to see return on their investment, and suddenly your data is the product again, and when that’s not enough, they will try other more invasive monetisation strategies.</p><p>And if you want to get away from that but still use the at protocol? Hope you have a few thousand per month lying around, because unless you want to remain dependent on the blue sky infrastructure, that’s what you need to afford to run your own at proto infrastructure.</p><p><a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlueSky</span></a> <a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Capitalism</span></a></p>
AT Protocol Community<p>Rashid Aziz <a class="mention" href="https://bsky.app/profile/raz.lol" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@raz.lol</a> presents his work on Basic <a class="mention" href="https://bsky.app/profile/basic.tech" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@basic.tech</a> - Protocol Composition: extending <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> for private data This is an example of how we can start experimenting with private data today, and learn from it as we see what the approach for private data will be in-protocol. <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23ATmosphereConf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATmosphereConf</a><br><br><a href="https://youtu.be/o4W3oZPRSD8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Protocol composition: extendin...</a></p>
Boris Mann<p>I was blown away by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@blaine" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>blaine</span></a></span>'s talk - Network Punk: Welcome to the Jungle</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/d-H1nzWHLoI?si=rZkrsg8KRvAQ4lqL" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">youtu.be/d-H1nzWHLoI?si=rZkrsg</span><span class="invisible">8KRvAQ4lqL</span></a></p><p><a href="https://cosocial.ca/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATmosphereConf</span></a> <a href="https://cosocial.ca/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>