#TheDawnofEverything

Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama<a href="https://mas.to/@darrellpf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@darrellpf</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/actuallyautistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@actuallyautistic</a> . yes, if everything is enduring at the same rate . but Autistics often excel at the depth measure as well . There’s a word I learned in <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a>, “actuarial.” Means having some sense how things work, the Davids said, “for what sort of a society you create by your policies and behaviour,” or something like that. Big Picture for People, kind of thing, I think, and “breadth,” is pretty good for that 💜

Radical AnthropologyAn earlier thread on Chris Knight's paper here in our Hunter Gatherer Research issue on <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a><a href="https://c.im/@RadicalAnthro/113324084751900183" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://c.im/@RadicalAnthro/113324084751900183</a>

BenI'm fascinated by Graeber and Wengrow's description of Medieval seasonal festivals providing an opportunity for peasant's to lampoon the monarchy and so maintain "political self conciousness". And trace the tradition of clowns throughout history that subverted the status quo. "The first kings may well have been play kings. Then they became real kings."My kids love watching this episode and playing the game[...]<a href="https://adar.bearblog.dev/play-kings/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://adar.bearblog.dev/play-kings/</a><a href="https://social.coop/tags/GraeberWengrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberWengrow</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/thedawnofeverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#thedawnofeverything</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/monarchy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monarchy</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/books" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#books</a>

BenI'm reading "The Dawn of everything - A new History of Humanity" by David Wengrow and David Graeber at the moment. Graeber is spot on: it IS mind altering to know that our ancestors developed complex societies without hierarchy, and these societies built cities. Some of our ancestors lived in societies that adopted hierarchy only to leave it behind.<a href="https://social.coop/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/books" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#books</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/GraeberWengrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberWengrow</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchism</a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a>

skua"We are choked with news but starved of history.”—Will DurantThe reigning <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SpectacleMiester" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SpectacleMiester</a> has us stuffed with news like geese being prepped for patè production. (They're force fed wheat.)Can think of no better alternative than switching my inrellectual diet to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GraeberAndWengrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberAndWengrow</a>. An exploding of the myth that frames most history.

skua<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Schouten_B" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Schouten_B</a> <a href="https://appdot.net/@jgordon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jgordon</a> I'm looking at <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GraeberAndWengrowe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberAndWengrowe</a> 's writing about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Schismogenesis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Schismogenesis</a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a>: "questions about values, about what humans really are (and consider themselves to be), and how they should properly relate to one another. (p. 175.)" & "ever since Mesolithic times [9000–4300 BCE], the broad tendency has been for human beings to further subdivide, coming up with endless new ways to distinguish themselves from their neighbors (p. 166)"

naught101<a href="https://fediscience.org/@univienna" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@univienna</a> Wengrow and Graeber would be pleased to see this<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/theDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#theDawnOfEverything</a>

Goiterzan/Amygdalai LamaIt’s not a “sense of justice;” because justice isn’t some real force that we would evolve a sense for, it’s an abstraction. . It’s much more real than that. . It’s the actuarial sense, it is the ability to see causality in the human world, of psychology, of politics, of how we live and treat one another, and probably of evolution, which is also causality. . “Justice,” is an Allistic abstraction, something they say they strive for and rarely reach perfectly - so a “sense of justice,” is entirely fictional, Allistic framing, unrelated to reality and causality. It places it in the realm of delusion. . Call it what it is, I got the word from <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> , many Autistics have an intact actuarial sense. . <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/ActuallyAutistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActuallyAutistic</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/actuallyautistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@actuallyautistic</a> <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/NDTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NDTheory</a> <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/AutisticScience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AutisticScience</a>

skua<a href="https://mastodon.social/@tonycart" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tonycart</a> Yes the possibility is becoming apparent with Dutton having a major party sounding like the fringe nationalist One Nation party from decades ago.And the arc from John Howard to Tony Abbott to Morrison to Dutton is looking more and more like a direction that will be continued.The article' places the roots in "failures of neoliberalism and globalism".I doubt this is an very helpful explanation. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GraeberAndWengrowe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberAndWengrowe</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Capitalism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JohnHoward" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JohnHoward</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OneNation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OneNation</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Dutton" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Dutton</a>

Radical AnthropologyIn 'Cancelling hunter-gatherers for the cause of 21st C urbanism', anarchist anthropologist <a href="https://c.im/tags/JamesvanLanen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JamesvanLanen</a> critiques what he sees as a gendered structure arising in <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a>.This counterposes brutish, masculinist, prestige-hungry hunters to more communal, matriarchal early women farmers, busy creating an ‘ecology of freedom’. A whole array of lifeways of non-intensifying, egalitarian peoples have been ‘cancelled’ from this ‘new history of humanity’. Yet precisely these indigenous peoples bear the most sustainable cultural knowledge, and are most vulnerable to ethnocide from farmer expansion. Paradoxically Graeber + Wengrow end up advocating statist, urban bureaucracies in creating a fallacious prehistoric ‘left/right’ divide.<a href="https://c.im/tags/huntergatherers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#huntergatherers</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/nonintensifying" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#nonintensifying</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/egalitarian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#egalitarian</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/transegalitarian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#transegalitarian</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/farmers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#farmers</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/states" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#states</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/bureaucracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bureaucracy</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#history</a> <a href="https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.7" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.7</a>

Radical AnthropologyIn 'Seasonality and schismogenesis', social anthropologist <a href="https://c.im/tags/ThomasWidlok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThomasWidlok</a> draws on longterm fieldwork with Hai//om people of northern Namibia, envisaging an ‘indigenous critique’ of two key themes: oscillatory switches framed by seasonality, and ‘schismogenesis’. He calls these ‘doing seasons’ and ‘doing difference’. Doing seasons without ‘unruly switching’, Hai//om indigenous voice critiques the structuralist/dualist seasonal perspective in <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a> ‘coloured by agricultural folks in the high latitude zones’. Life histories collected from Hai//om seniors also provide the opposite of ‘doing difference’ – that is, ‘undoing difference’, when they describe living with !Xû neighbours as ‘children of one woman’.<a href="https://c.im/tags/anthropology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anthropology</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/schismogenesis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#schismogenesis</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Hai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hai</a>//om <a href="https://c.im/tags/Namibia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Namibia</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/indigenousvoice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#indigenousvoice</a> <a href="https://liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.5</a>

Radical AnthropologyIn 'Before The Dawn of Everything', archaeologist <a href="https://c.im/tags/IanWatts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IanWatts</a> questions Graeber and Wengrow's premise that searching for original human society 'can only be a matter of myth-making'. He argues, for Graeber and Wengrow, a ‘single human “us” can only be inferred from ~30,000 years ago'. The actual stretch of time when we became all-singing, all-dancing, language-speaking symbolic culture-bearing humans -- in Africa-- is abandoned as unknowable. The latest archaeological findings and their interpretation suggest pan-African habitual performance of collective ritual, with a uniform signature of red cosmetic usage, from ~160,000 years ago around the end of speciation, grounding symbolic culture’s first shared imaginaries. While <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a> was clearly intended to be collectively empowering, it marginalises evolutionary theory, the archaeology of our speciation and African hunter-gatherer ethnography. Thereby, it resembles the decried ‘sapient paradox’! That is the fairly racist (!) idea that we got human bodies in Africa but had to reach Europe to show intelligence (or interesting archaeology!) <a href="https://c.im/tags/archaeology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#archaeology</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/humanorigins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#humanorigins</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Africa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Africa</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MiddleStoneAge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MiddleStoneAge</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/sapientparadox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sapientparadox</a><a href="https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/hgr.2022.3</a>

Radical AnthropologyWe're superdelighted that Hunter Gatherer Research have just published our Special Issue on <a href="https://c.im/tags/Graeber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Graeber</a> and <a href="https://c.im/tags/Wengrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wengrow</a>'s <a href="https://c.im/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a> with interdisciplinary articles from hunter-gatherer anthropologists, archaeologists and prose poets! Unfortunately this is not-so-free <a href="https://c.im/tags/fediscience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediscience</a>, so if you have any problems getting to links you can message me on c.power@ucl.ac.uk for help!🧵Here on our articles ⬇️⬇️<a href="https://liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/toc/hgr/current" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/toc/hgr/current</a>

skuaIf <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GraberAndWengrowe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraberAndWengrowe</a> are onto something with their accounts of protean social structures in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> then for the longest time a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Conservative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conservative</a> would have been supporting the continuing of changing and modifying social structures to meet the needs of the community.?<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PlotTwists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PlotTwists</a>

skua<a href="https://babka.social/@shekinahcancook" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@shekinahcancook</a> With <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GraeberAndWengrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GraeberAndWengrow</a>'s book <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> having upset the idea of a one way process of becoming agrarian, I'm wondering if the spread of cats can be used as a proxy for the spread of grain growing as the dominant source of food.If so then the northern Balkans were grain growers some 6000 years before ancient Greece got there.

the Amygdalai Lama<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@joshourisman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@joshourisman</a> <a href="https://mastodon.scot/@callunavulgaris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@callunavulgaris</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@kkffoo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kkffoo</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/actuallyautistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@actuallyautistic</a> . yeah. Evolution isn't catching on, they don't worry about tomorrow or something. . There was a word I learned in <a href="https://neurodifferent.me/tags/TheDawnofEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnofEverything</a> , "actuarial," an adjective that refers to the sort of knowledge of what sort of a society or a world you create with your actions and your policies, and they described the culture shock for the Turtle Islanders when the Euros arrived without it. 😬

Jack of all tradesTom Murphy's review and critique of The Dawn of Everything.<a href="https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2023/09/the-dawn-of-everything/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2023/09/the-dawn-of-everything/</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/anthropology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anthropology</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/GameTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GameTheory</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/TomMurphy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TomMurphy</a>

the Amygdalai LamaIn my Autistic view of neurodiversity, “Neurotypical,” is sort of a lie, I mean if you count all the years of human existence. There are a lot more people just now, so I suppose they will have or are going to pass us eventually - but for most of the history of humans, living the cyclic history described in <a href="https://neurodifferent.me/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a> or even closer to nature, these modern sorts were not what was typical. . I say again, every day, something like twelve thousand years and it seems to be over. . But now, according to the Allistic scientists, they are the “typical human,” and they have existed for three hundred thousand years, and life will go on, like who needs oxygen, we’re stronger than carbon. . When it comes to people, NT science is a long way from science, I’m sorry. . We need our own, and they need our help, but you know how they are. I can sort of understand, from my neurology how they think we’re the new thing. . It is not my neurology, I do not grasp how they think we are a problem, or the bigger problem. . <a href="https://neurodifferent.me/tags/ActuallyAutistic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActuallyAutistic</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/actuallyautistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@actuallyautistic</a>

Steve Moore :toad:I am wading through <a href="https://toad.social/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a>, by the Davids Graeber & Wengrow, & while there is no shortage of reviews I've yet to find any with an <a href="https://toad.social/tags/Indigenous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Indigenous</a> perspective. Like what would Vine Deloria Jr. have thought about the questions & interpretations presented. <a href="https://toad.social/tags/Anthropology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Anthropology</a> <a href="https://toad.social/tags/Archaeology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Archaeology</a> <a href="https://toad.social/tags/Books" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Books</a>

Jack of all tradesSocieties are stuck in dominance hierarchies because of specific material conditions that give one group an advantage over another, and not due to an arbitrary choice of the social structure.Communism is impossible today not only due to evil billionaires and politicians, but also because of the very structure of the industrial civilization, with its dependency on extractivism and global supply chains.Quote from <a href="https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=nsIxMzLjEfs" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=nsIxMzLjEfs</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#anarchism</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/communism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#communism</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/TheDawnOfEverything" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TheDawnOfEverything</a>

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