Acá va un #viernesdeescritorio con toda la nostalgia de los 2000s Slackware 15 32-bits con escritorio WindowMaker en Dell Precision 530MT Dual Xeon 2800DP 2GB RDRAM ECC 250GB IDE ATA RAID-1 nVidia FX5500 256MB con kernel custom en exhibición en la FLISoL Montevideo 2025 próximamente #slackware #windowmaker #dell #nostalgia #gnulinux

Finally #GNUstep is installed and #WindowMaker running.

Hi #Linux,

What do you primarily use for interacting with your systems?

Feel free to boost!

NextStep: The Visionary OS, Steve Jobs’s Apple Exodus, and the GNUstep Legacy

NextStep was a pioneering operating system and development environment created by NeXT Inc., the company founded by Steve Jobs following his departure from Apple. Released in 1989, NextStep introduced technologies and design principles that would heavily influence modern computing.

Read More: https://machaddr.substack.com/p/nextstep-the-visionary-os-steve-jobss

In case you missed it, Window Maker Live was updated last week and is based on Debian bookworm. It integrates with the GNUStep desktop environment. Here it is running on my almost 20 year old ThinkPad T43p (released April 2005) this afternoon. There is an amd64 and an i686 version available. The developer has tested it on a T23 with 1GB of RAM.

https://wmlive.sourceforge.net/

Buenas gentes de Mastodon, ¿qué escritorio de Linux utilizáis, que no sea ni KDE ni Gnome?

Actualmente uso Windowmaker y estoy contento con él. La principal ventaja es que no me da la lata, pero me pregunto si hay alguna opción más moderna que podría ser un buen sustituto. Fundamentalmente uso navegador, thunderbird, terminal (kitty), libreoffice y zotero.

@joel

Slightly sad that no glorious 4K #WindowMaker screenshots were provided. XD

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Ok Firefox doesn't show the resize bar for #WindowMaker but its windows still resize, so I'll probably be using that inside of WindowMaker for now, maybe I'll figure out how to get Vivaldi working sensibly.

Ok, got around the keystore issue by just making a new profile and syncing, is there a way in #WindowMaker to force the resize bar to show up on all windows? It's not present on Vivaldi whic is kind of annoying.

#linux

Anyone out here still use LiveStep?

For this period, I’ve settled on getting a nice Window Maker environment working. I like Window Maker because of its simplicity, low resource requirements and the use of dockapps. Dockapps are small apps that are designed to sit in the dock and show information or perform tasks. I’ve installed a couple that have similar look between them. From top to bottom:

1. Time – wmtime
   What can I say, it display an analog clock as well as day of week and the date
2. CPU/RAM – cputnik
   This displays how much all cores are working and also shows how much RAM has been used up. When clicking on the dockapp, gnome-system-monitor opens up
   Misc – wmmisc
   This dockapp shows exactly what it’s called, namely miscellaneous information about the system. Logged on users, uptime, ongoing processes, etc.
3. Network – wmifs
   This is a blinkenlights for the ongoing network traffic. You can see the amount of packets being sent as well as lights for receiving/transmitting data
4. Audio control – wmusic
   This is a general audio controller which is written for use with XMMS but can work with any audio player with support for multimedia controls. By double clicking the dockapp, it tries to launch xmms, but I’ve circumvented this by creating a bash script that launches Plexamp instead
5. Volume control – wmamixer
   Last but not least, a nifty volume controller. It can controll both left and right channels as well as master/capture. Worked out of the box for me.

Most of these dockapps are available in the normal Ubuntu repository, but some of them I had to compile myself like cputnik and wmamixer.

The rest of the dock is occupied by quick launcher for Firefox, Thunderbird, Tilix (I will create a blog post about this lovely little gem later!) and Thunar. For those familiar with Window Maker may also notice that I’ve also disabled the workspace dock, a.k.a. the clip, as I’m not really fond of its functionality.

https://thanius.chuggybumba.com/2024/08/18/bigbubbah-2024-08-18/

Cada tanto me gusta mandar un lindo viernes de escritorio, esta vez con mi la vieja HP que alguna vez fue de mi viejo. #viernesdeescritorio #windowmaker #slackware #xmms2 #slackware15

I've always felt most comfortable with minimalist type window managers. Of course, who can resist dockapps, really?

I just had the idea to make a Debian package that "modernizes" #windowmaker with all the stuff you'd expect to find in a desktop environment, so you don't have to spend so much time configuring it.

I installed #gnome to hunker down and "get stuff done" as I was before using #windowmaker, but now that I'm using gnome, some things work nicer and easier, but overall I think I may go back to #windowmaker.

Meine Präferenz beim #WindowManager in den letzten 20+ Jahren war immer so:

* #i3wm
* #WindowMaker
* LXDE/FVWM/IceWM/FVWM… IRGENDWAS einigermaßen kleines halt, was 08/15-Bedienung macht
* …
* Gnome - einfach weil man manchmal was mainstreamiges braucht

Nie in der Liste? #KDE

War mir immer zu bloatet, umständlich und kaputt.

Und jetzt verwende ich neuerdings spontan überall KDE? Werde ich alt?

I've been playing with the #WindowMaker version of #Debian recently, just to remember the old, good #NextSTEP, #OpenSTEP era. I used to have a #NeXTStation but I sold it locally for $300 just before I left US for Greece. It could probably fetch thousands on eBay, but I didn't want to deal with shipping such a heavy item.

Ah, I miss the old #SiliconValley. Back when there was actually room to innovate in ways that were revolutionary, and not just additive.