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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><em>"Ich bitte nicht um eine Hintertür, ich erwarte die Vordertür!"</em></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7anmIIwg0gI&amp;t=1177s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catherine de Bolle</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EUROPOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EUROPOL</span></a>-Leiterin.</li></ul><p>Damit ist alles zur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verfassungsfeindlichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verfassungsfeindlichkeit</span></a> von <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Strafverfolgern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Strafverfolgern</span></a>"</em> wie Europol gesagt!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfaschismus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfaschismus</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rechtsstaatlichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rechtsstaatlichkeit</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FDGO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FDGO</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kommunikation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kommunikation</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/%C3%9Cberwachung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Überwachung</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Massen%C3%BCberwachung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Massenüberwachung</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verschl%C3%BCsselung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verschlüsselung</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EUpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EUpol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Freiheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freiheit</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Frieden" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Frieden</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Demokratie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Demokratie</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Menschenrechte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Menschenrechte</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/B%C3%BCrgerrechte" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bürgerrechte</span></a></p>
Ruben De Smet<p>Eindelijk de <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/VRT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VRT</span></a> docu over <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> gezien. Aanrader. Wanneer komt de opvolgdocu waar ze vertellen wat ze juist hebben gekraakt? Hoe ik het begrijp, is alles als passive attacker verlopen, dus moet er effectief een foutje gezeten hebben in het protocol.</p><p>De reacties van De Bolle van <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Europol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Europol</span></a> en de collega van <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FBI</span></a> zijn wel wreed <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dystopian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dystopian</span></a>.</p>
Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kkarhan</span></a></span> </p><blockquote><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was as secure as claimed, it would've been shut down like <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; others...</p></blockquote><p>Just stop the BS. EncroChat was specifically built and marketed for criminals. It wasn't shut down by law enforcement, it was hacked by the French police, after which they decided to shut the service down themselves.</p><p>Signal is open source (and the issue regarding reproducible builds is known, but it doesn't impact the security of the app. It is caused by a navigation library that causes some race condition during the build process, the result of which is dependent on CPU speed. They are aware of the issue, and are working to fix it. It is tracked here: <a href="https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/13565" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/signalapp/Signal-An</span><span class="invisible">droid/issues/13565</span></a>). If you don't trust the official build, you can compile it yourself. There are also forks like <a href="https://www.twinhelix.com/apps/signal-foss/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal-FOSS</a> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@mollyim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mollyim</span></a></span> available if you prefer that.</p><p>The server is also open source (of course you can't verify if they are actually running that code, but that's gonna be the case for <strong>every</strong> application with a client/server architecture. Your point regarding Signal being "proprietary SaaS" is, again, total BS.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> It's not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> when one points out that you demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Infrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Infrastructure</span></a>.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solution</span></a> is literally the reason why I consider it <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/insecure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insecure</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Not to mention the lack of <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> support with an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> or the willingness to fulfill <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> <em>"Embargoes"</em> or shilling a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <em>is</em> the illicit activity!!!</li></ul><p>And don't get me started on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacism</span></a> that is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>.</p><ul><li>If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>.</li></ul><p>I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> stenches like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a>-esque!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> I disagree because your platform is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> and doesn't allow for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys and you demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> which can be used.to track users down!</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was as secure as claimed, it would've been shut down like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; others...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.glitched.systems/@froge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>froge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> I'm not replacing <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> with <em>"random tools"</em> but good options.</p><p>Like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> as well as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> which work flawlessly over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> using <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tails</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@guardianproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>guardianproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Orbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Orbot</span></a> respectably.</p><ul><li>Also these allow not only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> but just work and I'd highly recommend <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> as a hoster which finances iself by users paying <em>and</em> allows <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/anonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymous</span></a> accoubts &amp; payments including not just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> but also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Considering the costs of even acquiring and upkeeping an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/anonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymous</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>, I'd rather pay €2 p.m. for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME-supported <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> with the option of self-custody than $2,50+ p.m. just to keep a phone number.</p><ul><li>Plus I don't run around with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tracking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tracking</span></a> device that could be used to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deanonymize" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deanonymize</span></a> me any second...</li></ul><p>Or is anyone here expecting <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> to <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114220798961806961" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risk jail for life</a> amd not comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>?</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was as secure as advertised, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>!</li></ul><p>It <em>stenches</em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, because <em>NOTHING IS FOR FREE</em> and running a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> is expensive...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@osman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>osman</span></a></span> If your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> relies on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> and/or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210908180219/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risking jail <em>or worse</em></a>, you fucked up!</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> was secure, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>. </li></ul><p>Seriously, to me <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> stenches <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a>. </p><ul><li>All Signal fans do is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FUD</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME and#XMPP+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> which are truly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> and allow real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> for complete control of all the data and keys...</li></ul><p>That's why I get people setup with it!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://meow.social/@Catwoman69y2k" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Catwoman69y2k</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dragonchat.org/@dragonfriend" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonfriend</span></a></span> most importantly:</p><p>Only with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> of the entire infrastructure <em>and</em> everything being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>, one can assure (and [let it be] audit[ed] independently) that the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/advertised" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>advertised</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/promises" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>promises</span></a> are in fact true.</p><ul><li>All <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutions - and yes that includes <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> as well (!!!) - are inherently insecure because they can be <em>forced into "cooperation"</em> - may it be with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> or <em><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210908180219/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">listeally a gun to their head</a></em>...</li></ul><p>Cuz not expecting <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> to break is the same level of <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> assurances as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> etc. do <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PW3O2mqTn8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">in their</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/advetising" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>advetising</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lies</span></a>! </p><ul><li>Remember: Corporations/Foundations/non-profits/... <em>don't have a right to be silent</em> , only individuals, and even then there are certain juristictions that have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KeyEscrow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KeyEscrow</span></a> laws (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KSA</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/India" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>India</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a> , ...) in the books!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Mik3y" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mik3y</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@samhainnight" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>samhainnight</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sfba.social/@karlauerbach" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>karlauerbach</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@alex_p_roe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>alex_p_roe</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.ai/@Nonilex" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Nonilex</span></a></span> not to mention all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GAFAMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GAFAMs</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechBros</span></a> who get to know that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> means they'll have to integrate more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdors</span></a> and enable <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BulkSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BulkSurveillance</span></a> or get shut down &amp; jailed faster than they can say <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>...</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StasiBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>StasiBook</span></a> automatically snitches DMs to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CPB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPB</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> genau das ist der Falsche Ansatz, da Threat Models sich ständig verschieben und nicht ausgegangen werden kann, dass es dabei bleibt.</p><ul><li>Das technisch sicherstmögliche auf verbreiteter Hardware &amp; Systemen ist und bleibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> über <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, idealerweise an einen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>, weil damit echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> machbar ist!</li></ul><p>Keine*r deloyed drölfzig Messenger oder migriert bedarfsweise User*innen umher.</p><ul><li>Anders als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a>|e &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e Systeme (egal ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, etc.) ist XMPP+OMEMO an sich sicher!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.laurenweinstein.org/@lauren" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lauren</span></a></span><br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@pixelschubsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelschubsi</span></a></span> </p><p>Also the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/113999748481227961" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">blatant dismissal</a> of absolitely basic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> is just flabberghasting.</p><ul><li>It's inherently wrong to <em>put all eggs in one basket</em> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> being not shut down like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> makes it just as sus as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationIronside" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationIronside</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperatioTr%C3%B8janShield" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperatioTrøjanShield</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MINERVA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MINERVA</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RUBIKON" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RUBIKON</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenStandards</span></a> can actuall survive long-term and remain <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secure</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Otherwise we'd all gaslight ourselves into ignoring the hard lessions we learned that bought us to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> and why we ain't on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitter</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tumblr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tumblr</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BrownSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BrownSky</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> (any more)!</li></ul><p>It's the same reasons we use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGPG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGPG</span></a>/MIME &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSH" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SSH</span></a> and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X400" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X400</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X25</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Unlike with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> one doesn't has to trust the provider or app. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> works regardless if you use <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> or do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> and only trust code you wrote yourself...</li></ul><p>IOW: Think <em>"How can you weaponize Signal?"</em> and see what you csn do <em>just holding key people in contempt</em>...</p><ul><li>And I'm not even talkibg about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MassSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MassSurveillance</span></a> alike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Room651A" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Room651A</span></a>, but just <em>duely submitted warrants</em> that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> <em>will comply with</em>... </li></ul><p>The less <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/info" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>info</span></a> a provider has, the less they can be forced to snitch upon customers.</p><ul><li>So even if you don't give a shit that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes this a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CantUse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CantUse</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WintUse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WintUse</span></a>"</em> (out of US-centrist privilegue to not comply <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>) for many, it's still dishonest.</li></ul><p><em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JustUseSgnal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JustUseSgnal</span></a>!"</em> is a form of <em>dangerous "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechPopulism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechPopulism</span></a>"</em> aimed at bamboozling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> <em>who don't know better</em>, abusing information asymetry to <em>pull rank</em> instead of investing the time and effort to *explain "how" and "why" this is indeed a good or bad idea.</p><ul><li>There's a reason why <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tails</span></a> doesn't include <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and why I'll say it again that XMPP+OMEMO over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> is the gold standard in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> that isn't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/airgapped" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>airgapped</span></a> aka. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdab4T_CoN8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>"Airgapped PGP"</em></a>.</li></ul><p>The only ones that have a chance to beat that are <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> but that's just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> in a nice UI...</p><ul><li>You may now laugh at me and think my <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TinfoilHat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TinfoilHat</span></a> sits too tight"</em> but I'm shure sooner or later I'll be evidenced as <em>correct</em>...</li></ul>
The New Oil<p><a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> encrypted service distributors arrested in <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spain</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/Netherlands" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netherlands</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/legal/sky-ecc-encrypted-service-distributors-arrested-in-spain-netherlands/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bleepingcomputer.com/news/lega</span><span class="invisible">l/sky-ecc-encrypted-service-distributors-arrested-in-spain-netherlands/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cybercrime</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cybersecurity</span></a></p>
Anonymous 🐈️🐾☕🍵🏴🇵🇸 :af:<p>Four distributors of the encrypted communications service <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, used extensively by criminals, were arrested in Spain and the Netherlands. <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/CyberAlerts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CyberAlerts</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/anonymity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonymity</span></a> <a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/legal/sky-ecc-encrypted-service-distributors-arrested-in-spain-netherlands/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">bleepingcomputer.com/news/lega</span><span class="invisible">l/sky-ecc-encrypted-service-distributors-arrested-in-spain-netherlands/</span></a></p>
Hamburg und Umzu<p>Drogenschmuggel: Hamburger Staatsanwaltschaft erwartet Datensatz</p><p>Es geht um Text- und Sprachnachrichten von gehackten Krypto-Handys. In Hamburg gab es 2024 knapp 600 Ermittlungsverfahren wegen Drogenschmuggels.</p><p><a href="https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Drogenschmuggel-Hamburger-Staatsanwaltschaft-erwartet-Datensatz,drogenschmuggel144.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Dro</span><span class="invisible">genschmuggel-Hamburger-Staatsanwaltschaft-erwartet-Datensatz,drogenschmuggel144.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hamburg</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgerHafen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgerHafen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Drogenschmuggel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Drogenschmuggel</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kryptohandys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kryptohandys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Chatnachrichten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chatnachrichten</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgNews</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://girlcock.club/@steeps" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>steeps</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://lesbian.solutions/@vultureculture" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vultureculture</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> </p><p><em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InconvenientTruth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InconvenientTruth</span></a> is inconvenient!</em></p><p>Cuz when push comes to shove <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> <em>will talk</em> - <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210908180219/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">they always do</a>!</p><ul><li>The same fools that trust <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> systems like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> also trusted <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationIronside" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationIronside</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationTr%C3%B8janShield" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationTrøjanShield</span></a> before...</li></ul><p>But hey, feel free to take the gamble if you believe the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/christofacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>christofacist</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a>-Regime won't target you sooner or later.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@compl4xx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>compl4xx</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://layer8.space/@Layer8" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Layer8</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hhmx.de/@nick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nick</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://waldvogel.family/@marcel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>marcel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fnordon.de/@mspro" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mspro</span></a></span></p><ul><li><em>EXAKT DAS!</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113938762230637543" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Meine Rede</a>...</p><p>Oder um es einfach zu erklären: Warum gibt es <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTTP</span></a>(S) &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> ( <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IMAP</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a>) bis heute und keiner nutzt mehr <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AOL</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MSN</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICQ</span></a>?</p><ul><li>Weil nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OffeneStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OffeneStandards</span></a> als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> - Lösung taugen und langfristig überleben können!!!</li></ul><p>Wenn <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> <em>geflipped</em> wird wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> dann stehen Leute alternativlos in der shice ubd die ganzen <em>"Sicherheitsversprechen"</em> lösen sich in <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/L%C3%BCgen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lügen</span></a> auf.</p><ul><li>Wohingegen selbst wenn <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> nen Front wäre, es mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME (bspw. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>) sie Sicherheit sank <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SepfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SepfCustody</span></a> gewahrt und mittels <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> zusätzliche Sicherheit implementiert werden kann!</li></ul><p>Ich nutze meinen XMPP-Account seit Ewigkeiten und habe drölfzig Clients durch. Aber Kontakte erreichen mich darüber Problemlos!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://swiss.social/@silvan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>silvan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@nakal" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nakal</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a> hat dieselben Probleme wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>:</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/zentralisiert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zentralisiert</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a></li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Sicherheit</span></a>? <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113938762230637543" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1139387</span><span class="invisible">62230637543</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mortn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mortn</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@kyleirl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kyleirl</span></a></span> @Andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@spycrab" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>spycrab</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@shipwreckt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>shipwreckt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FACT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FACT</span></a>: </p><ul><li><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> and thus inherently incompatible with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Signal demands <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Signal <em>to this day</em> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">peddles</a> a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>If Signal didn't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoor</span></a>, it would've been banned and shut down just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>.</p></li><li><p>Signal is as secure as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationIronside" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationIronside</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationTr%C3%B8janShield" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OperationTrøjanShield</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MINEROVA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MINEROVA</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rubikon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rubikon</span></a>. </p></li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a> guys!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ProTip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ProTip</span></a>: Use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>!<br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113932376762056036" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1139323</span><span class="invisible">76762056036</span></a></p>
Hamburg und Umzu<p>Kampf gegen Drogenschmuggel in Hamburg: Großer Datensatz erwartet</p><p>Konkret geht es um die Handy-App SkyECC, die Kriminelle auf Kryptohandys nutzen. Ermittler konnten sich in die App einhacken und Chatverläufe verfolgen.</p><p><a href="https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Kampf-gegen-Drogenschmuggel-in-Hamburg-Grosser-Datensatz-erwartet,drogenschmuggel142.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Kam</span><span class="invisible">pf-gegen-Drogenschmuggel-in-Hamburg-Grosser-Datensatz-erwartet,drogenschmuggel142.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hamburg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hamburg</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgerHafen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgerHafen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Drogenschmuggel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Drogenschmuggel</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kryptohandys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kryptohandys</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Chatnachrichten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chatnachrichten</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HamburgNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HamburgNews</span></a></p>
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@sylv_a personally, I'd recommend #XMPP+#OMEMO (and #PGP/MIME - encrypted #eMail) for real #E2EE with #SelfCustody of Keys as well as actual #decentralization.

Cuz I noone's gonna risk jailtime for (non-paying!) users - it at all…

In fact I'd call U.S. MIL/INTEL as "criminally incompetent" if they didn't manage to plant multiple people inside @signalapp / #Signal or any other single-vendor / single-provider messenger.

Personally, solutions like Signal & #Threema have a stench like #CryptoAG / #MINERVA / #Rubikon and #ANØM / #OperationIronside / #OperationTrøjanShield.

By contrast: #OpenStandards like XMPP+OMEMO & PGP/MIME are independently verifyable and not dependent on on a single individual/organization for maintenance/survival/implementation/development.

Personally I'd still recommend @monocles / #monocles with #monoclesChat & #gajim...

Twitterthaddeus e. grugq on Twitter“I’m gonna tell you a secret about “logless VPNs” — they don’t exist. Noone is going to risk jail for your $5/mo https://t.co/Q2aOQJkG4g”