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ActivityPub Overview updated. I added GNUsocial and a cc by-sa license. 🙂

@mray Love it! Thanks for CC-BY-SA

cheers mate 🍻

@mray
Hallo @kuketzblog , hier gibt es auch eine Variante eurer Übersicht. Finde es großartig, dass ihr euch so engagiert. Danke dafür!

@mray I appreciate the spirit, but the slogan has serious "Let me interject for a moment. What some call Linux..." vibes, which I'm not sure is intended

@hisham_hm It is. There is a vague notion out there that you can be part of the "Fediverse" but not speak ActivityPub (e.g. Diaspora). I support a definition of "Fediverse" that directly ties to that protocol. Not doing so would mean we were all in the "Fediverse" since the 70's, rendering the fresh vibes that come with the words usage basically meaningless.

Lets face it: email, XMPP, Matrix,... are all open, de-central AWESOMENESS! But they remain their own thing.

That's my spirit.

@mray Got it. It's a fair argument (though I hear there are bridges between different protocols?)

Just wanted to check if you're aware that the RMS-like tone does turn off a lot of people, which may or may not be the intention for an advocacy piece. GNU supporters haven't been good at outreaching beyond their own audience for a while now, so not sure if it's a good pattern to follow.

Hubzilla's main Protocol is Zot and ActivityPub support is a plug-in. And isn't enabled by default as far as I know.

Hubzilla by default is a part of the fediverse but not "activitypub network"
Many do consider XMPP and Matrix a part of the fediverse.

@mray @hisham_hm While I support the narrow definition of "Fediverse" (I think "two Fedi software can always talk to each other" is a useful thing to be able to say), this image... is not how I would push it.

I'd be OK if this is on a page introducing APub to an audience who knows what Fedi is, but I don't think it conveys the intended message anywhere else.

@Parnikkapore @hisham_hm

Unfortunately there is room for interpretation and nobody can know exactly what is/isn't "Fediverse".

How would you push for the "two Fedi software can always talk to each other" ?

@mray @hisham_hm I'm not sure, actually. I can use that definition (clarifying of needed) myself, but that's about all I can think of right now.

Overall, I think it's not a good idea to strongly fight against the flow when it comes to use of words. Not even linguists do that.

@Parnikkapore @mray Especially linguists! The good ones at least! (descriptivism vs. prescriptivism)

@MrsMouse I didn't realize, too. That's why it wasn't there initially. But seems like there is a plugin that does the trick. 😋

@dhalucario Sure. It is licensed CC-BY-SA, you don't even have to ask me. 🙂

@mray
WordPress and Drupal are federated these days?!

@richmccue Mattermost is nice, but it seems they don't speak ActivityPub 😐 . There basically is no way to connect to any project shown in the infographic. That's why I wouldn't consider them to be "Fediverse".

@drq @mray интересно, я не знал что ворлдпресс и некстклауд работает на активитипаб, а какой там функционал федерации?

@mray This is the first I've heard of Bookwyrm, but I like the idea. Are there ways to import data from Goodreads onto it? (Unfortunately, as a writer I have to maintain a GR profile, to monitor my reputation... but I don't like it.)

@StampedingLonghorn tbh there needs to be more stuff in the fediverse

@mray this is awesome, but can you please write WordPress with capital „P“?

@mray as for anyone arguing the semantics of what IS the #fediverse, I think what you have is a great, generalized, easy to understand concept that AP connected applications are what are driving the current federated universe.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, as they say:)

Hello @mray, what software do you use to make this poster?

@mray beautiful poster, Man. Thank you for making it nice and useful. As a note, hey I am also an #Inkscape user.

@mray Wordpress? Drupal? Nextcloud?