@itsfoss #ImageMagick screencap: #Firefox with #Sidebery for #VerticalTabs, #IceWM with #ShadesOfGrey on #Arch #GNU+#Linux
#Apps at sight: #Geany #Zathura #Viewnior #DeltaChat #Dino #Jami #LXTerminal #PCManFM #fs
https://imagemagick.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
https://ice-wm.org
https://archlinux.org/
https://www.gnu.org/
https://www.geany.org/
https://pwmt.org/projects/zathura/
https://siyanpanayotov.com/project/viewnior/
https://delta.chat/en/
https://dino.im/
https://jami.net/
https://www.lxde.org/

@piku Def not definitive, but just to get you started:

• #Floorp atm based on FF 128 ESR vs #ZenBrowser based on FF Release, ie, atm 131.0.3. Note: Floorp Dev, many months ago, indicated they're in the process of rebasing also to Release, but we've not yet seen it.
• F & Z both have various UI & UX customisations not in FF without manual CSS. Some are similar to each other, others unique.
• Both offer Vivaldi-esque #WebPanels; F is almost identical, whereas Z WPs are less directly accessible.
• F allows either horizontal or vertical native tabs; Z is vertical-only.
• Z Dev is focusing on both form [aesthetics] & function; F is less "pretty".
• Both provide tabs splitting, but do it differently. IMO both implementations atm still need refinement.
• #Sidebery works in both, but availing oneself of its many wonders unfortunately compromises some of the important Z & F native functions.

@hopland IMO #VerticalTabs are fantastic, & far superior to conventional horizontal tabs. As a #Sidebery devotee, & #TreeStyleTab for some years before that, i welcome #FirefoxNightly's belated entry into this important UI UX step. That said, atm they're of course extremely primitive, & i doubt any current Sidebery user will decide to uninstall it & just use Nightly's current first-step offer.

Of amusement & frustration to me is the typical grumpy negative reactions of the neckbeards in the community forum. My Zarquon they're foolish in their closed-minded obstinacy.

Btw, wrt Sidebery, have you noticed the project afaict has had no new Commits now for over four months? I fear the Dev might have died, become ill, or walked away, though i desperately hope i'm wrong.

@msdropbear42 Tis now 4 months since the last #commit. I now fear the project has been abandoned, &/or something bad has happened to the Dev. This is very sad.

@waldyrious @Perhyte @cloudless I was a #TST user for many years, before discovering #Sidebery, so i do know how excellent TST is. IMO though, TST lost its way once the Dev chose to remove much core functionality from it, devolving it all instead to myriad companion AOs the user then also must install. As well, various functions some users wanted were explicitly ruled out by the Dev.

Otoh the Sidebery Dev has been immensely receptive to new ideas, as well as feedback for improving existing features, + ALL the functionality of TST exists within Sidebery's Settings without needing to have any companion AOs. There's so much i like about Sidebery, but just to mention a mere handful of benefits over TST:

• tab hover preview thumbnails
• infinite separate Workspaces [called Tab Panels in Sidebery]
• optional integration in the Sidebery Panel of Closed Tabs, Bookmarks, History [done better than in TST]
• infinite Session backups & restores
• really clever context menu options such that many commonplace tab operations can be done "one handed"... you really need to play with this to understand

My reply is inadequate. Much better would be to install the AO, explore its rich Settings, & play with it all.

@msdropbear42 @Perhyte @cloudless as a long-time #TreeStyleTab user, I've seen many people mention that #Sidebery is better, more powerful, etc., but I keep missing out on what exactly are the killer features that make the difference for so many people to have this preference. I'm pretty happy with TST, and suspect that the main things I'm missing are small papercuts and UX tune ups, but maybe there are features I don't know I need? Please enlighten me

@taanegl @cloudless Yes...

or even Floorp - though that would be like going ESR.

...but in July, the #Floorp Dev is jumping from #ESR to FF-Release version. Really looking fwd to it. Already Floorp + #Sidebery is wonderful, so soon will be even better.

@ebbesand ich bleibe bei #firefox mit #sidebery, #multiaccountcontainers und #temporarycontainers. Und latürnich #ublockorigin.

@Rush If by rewrite you possibly allude to the apparent decision to remove #Workspaces [bwaaaaaah] in a few months, then... fyi:

[oh, also, everything i write about #Floorp refers to the full, aka Stable, version, not the very short-lived & IMO bizarrely ill-advised Lightning version]

I have two profiles [well actually more, but only two are relevant here]:

• #Workspaces enabled, & #TreeStyleTab for great #VerticalTabs control
• #Workspaces disabled, & #Sidebery for superb #VerticalTabs control and #TabPanels [its version of workspaces].

They both work really well, but i heavily favour the latter, even though it's sad to not use Floorp's native WS, coz IMO once anyone has tasted Sidebery it's impossible to ever walk away from it. The bonus of this schema is that once Floorp's WS officially disappear, it won't damage my workflow given the choice already made, as above.

TLDR; IMO you can't do any harm by already giving Floorp another go now, rather than indefinitely waiting.

@Rush @BWPanda is already wonderful IMO. I changed to it from ​ a few months ago, & love it. Combined with #Sidebery, & then with its native Vivaldiesque #WebPanels #SidePanel, & split tabs view, + based on #gecko not the odious #chromium, i am having my cake & eating it.

@dragonarchitect Fwiw, fyi, if you like, or can tolerate, #VerticalTabs, you can install #Sidebery &, amongst its humongous QoL benefits, activate its snapshot function.

@Aaron

I also use #uBlockOrigin [in Hard Mode] & #LibRedirect, with these other priority #AddOns not shown in your pic.

In #Floorp:

CanvasBlocker   extension   1.9 true
Containerise    extension   3.9.0   true
Dark Reader extension   4.9.68  true
Gesturefy   extension   3.2.9   true
Livemarks   extension   3.6 true
Stylus  extension   1.5.37  true
Tree Style Tab  extension   3.9.19  true
VT4Browsers extension   4.0.9   true

In ​ #FirefoxNightly i swap #TreeStyleTab for #Sidebery .

@kizu Bonus: TST More Tree Commands and TST Indent Line extensions.

A lot of people recommended #sidebery these days but for me #treestyletabs clicks better